From topshot@indy.net Wed Jan 10 03:49:15 2001 Return-path: Envelope-to: dennehym@localhost Delivery-date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:49:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=dennehym) by sparks.cs.tcd.ie with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14GCGB-00052d-00 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:49:15 +0000 Received: from mail.cs.tcd.ie by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) for dennehym@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:49:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp07.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by relay.cs.tcd.ie (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA17385 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:46:30 GMT Received: (qmail 12665 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2001 03:45:18 -0000 Received: from ip209-183-88-122.ts.indy.net (HELO raym-pc-1.indy.net) ([209.183.88.122]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.37 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jan 2001 03:45:18 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.1.20010109174503.00ca76a0@pop.indy.net> X-Sender: topshot@pop.indy.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:46:14 -0500 To: topshot@indy.net From: Michael Ray Subject: UIT Mailing List Vol. 5 - #8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_532818322==_.ALT" X-UIDL: jfT!!d^4!![H1!!^JS"! Status: RO Content-Length: 10396 Lines: 229 --=====================_532818322==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me. In this issue: UIT Mailing List format change proposal Re: mats Re: Jacket losing stiffness / need prone help Shooting better with irons than scope Pistol matches in northeast US NOTE: I thought I would pass along that the management of the Tome Lowe Shooting Grounds (Wolf Creek) has recently changed so we shall see if this improves things or not. ****************************************************************** I have been considering making this more like a "normal" mailing list for some time where messages you post get sent out in close to real time and thus so do the responses. However, the automated listservs I know of cost money so I never went with the idea. I've now learned of a web-based one that works either through normal email or the web and best yet, is free. You can find more info on it at http://www.egroups.com What I would like to know from the readership is if some of you would prefer getting this in digest form every 1-3 weeks as opposed to real-time. Unfortunately, eGroups does not have that ability. It does archive every message that gets sent out and supposedly there is even a search tool for going through them. I would still set myself up as moderator for the group so I'd approve all messages to make sure they meet the intent of the list. So it would be pseudo real-time, but pretty close. So any of you with an opinion, especially against this idea, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you! Michael Ray Editor ****************************************************************** I purchased an Armato mat. Seems to be as "cushy" as any I've seen. They advertise in Precision Shooting magazine. Ralph Goodwin [Editor - never heard of that one. Couldn't find anything about it on the web. What I'm after is a fold-up mat (into fourths) with handles that is no more than 30" wide. I suppose if I was really desparate, I could attach some handles to a roll-up mat, but that wouldn't look as nice. Thune is very close but quite expensive as well.] ****************************************************************** Dear Michael, I would like to thank the people who advised me about my jacket loosing stifness. I would like to know your opinion about gehmann jackets, because i think mine lost its prperties very soon. Also I am trying to improve my positions. I send as attachement pictures of my prone position for anyone who wants to help me. Please post them in your page. Guido LAstra Colombia [Editor - Gehmann jackets aren't the best in the world but they should be decent, probably similar to AHG Anschutz. I wouldn't expect it to be very dry in Colombia, but if it is then that will effect it. I have posted his pics at http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/UIT_List_Stuff/guido.htm for those of you who would like to help him out. It's about 300K to download. I don't see any problem with it assuming you have lots of solid buttplate contact.] ******************************************************************** Listers, I can get much better accuracy out of my iron sights than my scopes. Maybe just not used to something with a large field of view. Has anyone else encountered this difficulty? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Satria Santoso [Editor - I've never shot with a scope but I know of some who don't like seeing that much movement when they are used to "so little" with irons so they tend to jump on the shots. Are you sure it isn't a problem with the scope (eg, you do get good groups from a rest)?] ******************************************************************** Nashua Fish and Game is pleased to announce that our winter PTO series of UIT pistol matches continues in the new year: Who: Contact John at perkins@net1plus.com What: PTOs for air pistol, centerfire, and rapidfire. When: 27 & 28 Jan, 24 & 25 Feb, 24 & 25 Mar, 21 & 22 Apr Where: Nashua Fish and Game, Merrimack, NH (southern NH) We also have NRA conventional pistol 1800s scheduled for 14 Jan and 11 Mar. These are 25 yard 1800s for .22 and centerfire pistols. See Nashua's website at http://www.nfga.org/be/be.html for more info about our events and our club. The web site also includes a calendar of pistol events in the Northeast US: http://www.nfga.org/be/calander.html#int regards, Dave Suitor NFGA Pistol Committee ******************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #8 Michael Ray - DBA & Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm --=====================_532818322==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me.

In this issue:

UIT Mailing List format change proposal
Re: mats
Re: Jacket losing stiffness / need prone help
Shooting better with irons than scope
Pistol matches in northeast US

NOTE: I thought I would pass along that the management of the Tome Lowe Shooting Grounds (Wolf Creek) has recently changed so we shall see if this improves things or not.

******************************************************************

I have been considering making this more like a "normal" mailing list for some time where messages you post get sent out in close to real time and thus so do the responses. However, the automated listservs I know of cost money so I never went with the idea. I've now learned of a web-based one that works either through normal email or the web and best yet, is free.

You can find more info on it at http://www.egroups.com

What I would like to know from the readership is if some of you would prefer getting this in digest form every 1-3 weeks as opposed to real-time. Unfortunately, eGroups does not have that ability. It does archive every message that gets sent out and supposedly there is even a search tool for going through them.

I would still set myself up as moderator for the group so I'd approve all messages to make sure they meet the intent of the list. So it would be pseudo real-time, but pretty close.

So any of you with an opinion, especially against this idea, I'd like to hear from you. Thank you!

Michael Ray
Editor

******************************************************************

I purchased an Armato mat. Seems to be as "cushy" as any I've seen. They advertise in Precision Shooting magazine.
Ralph Goodwin

[Editor - never heard of that one. Couldn't find anything about it on the web. What I'm after is a fold-up mat (into fourths) with handles that is no more than 30" wide. I suppose if I was really desparate, I could attach some handles to a roll-up mat, but that wouldn't look as nice. Thune is very close but quite expensive as well.]

******************************************************************

Dear Michael, I would like to thank the people who
advised me about my jacket loosing stifness. I would
like to know your opinion about gehmann jackets,
because i think mine lost its prperties very soon.

Also I am trying to improve my positions. I send as
attachement pictures of my prone position for anyone
who wants to help me. Please post them in your page.
Guido LAstra
Colombia

[Editor - Gehmann jackets aren't the best in the world but they should be decent, probably similar to AHG Anschutz. I wouldn't expect it to be very dry in Colombia, but if it is then that will effect it.

I have posted his pics at http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/UIT_List_Stuff/guido.htm for those of you who would like to help him out. It's about 300K to download. I don't see any problem with it assuming you have lots of solid buttplate contact.]

********************************************************************

Listers,
I can get much better accuracy out of my iron sights than my scopes. Maybe just not used to something with a large field of view. Has anyone else encountered this difficulty? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Satria Santoso

[Editor - I've never shot with a scope but I know of some who don't like seeing that much movement when they are used to "so little" with irons so they tend to jump on the shots. Are you sure it isn't a problem with the scope (eg, you do get good groups from a rest)?]

********************************************************************

Nashua Fish and Game is pleased to announce that our
winter PTO series of UIT pistol matches continues in
the new year:
Who: Contact John at perkins@net1plus.com
What: PTOs for air pistol, centerfire, and rapidfire.
When: 27 & 28 Jan, 24 & 25 Feb, 24 & 25 Mar, 21 & 22 Apr
Where: Nashua Fish and Game, Merrimack, NH (southern NH)

We also have NRA conventional pistol 1800s scheduled for
14 Jan and 11 Mar. These are 25 yard 1800s for .22 and
centerfire pistols.
See Nashua's website at http://www.nfga.org/be/be.html
for more info about our events and our club. The web
site also includes a calendar of pistol events in the
Northeast US:
http://www.nfga.org/be/calander.html#int

regards,
Dave Suitor
NFGA Pistol Committee

********************************************************************
End of UIT Mailing List #8

Michael Ray - DBA & Systems Engineer
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach
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