From topshot@indy.net Tue Dec 12 01:51:06 2000 Return-path: Envelope-to: dennehym@localhost Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:51:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=dennehym) by sparks.cs.tcd.ie with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 145eaw-0007HZ-00 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:51:06 +0000 Received: from mail.cs.tcd.ie by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) for dennehym@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:51:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp02.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.73]) by relay.cs.tcd.ie (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA04853 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:50:36 GMT Received: (qmail 29270 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2000 01:47:00 -0000 Received: from ip209-183-88-98.ts.indy.net (HELO raym-pc-1.indy.net) ([209.183.88.98]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.209.20.32 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2000 01:47:00 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.1.20001211200827.00be4c10@pop.indy.net> X-Sender: topshot@pop.indy.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:49:02 -0500 To: topshot@indy.net From: Michael Ray Subject: UIT Mailing List Vol. 5 - #6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_479296501==_.ALT" X-UIDL: EIj"!ZB=!!T%%"!^bI"! Status: RO Content-Length: 22759 Lines: 481 --=====================_479296501==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me. In this issue: Re: peak performance Re: peak performance Re: Freesport / 300M 3P rifle ISSF to outlaw trousers 2004+ (rumor) Lasik Surgery Report Jacket losing stiffness 3P in southern NJ? New Zealand ISSF range in trouble! How to increase traffic at Atlanta Olympic complex? Prone mats Hand & hand stop position ****************************************************************** Only the obvious stuff, really : - For the majority of us, where the "most important match" is at the weekend, and you finish work on the Friday.... Make sure you're there in sufficient time, and that your admin is all sorted out (there's nothing like arriving late, and having to rush your preparation :-( ). Make sure you've warmed up properly. A seven-hour drive from Scotland to England the night before, a late arrival at the accommodation, and a night in a strange (uncomfortable) bed is not the best way to treat your back muscles. Travel a day early if possible. - Where "most important" means spending two or three weeks away from home with the advantage that you get several days training on the range (and on the actual firing point) before each match..... Make sure that by the time the match happens, you're completely familiar with how the range operates (SIUS Ascor ? Wire changers ? Gehmann boxes ? How to go from sighter to match ?). Have a good idea how the wind, light. etc behave across the range, at the time of day that you'll be shooting. Don't forget the final :-) Assuming your technique is working well, your coach will probably be discussing tactics with you. Are you feeling well ? Have you an upset stomach ? What are your energy reserves like ? Are you better attacking the conditions and shooting quickly, or waiting for the conditions to reappear and being more deliberate ? Avoid the temptation to start changing everything - stick with what you know and have trained with. Your coach will advise..... Don't overtrain. It's too easy to do. You're at the range, there may not be huge pressures on the training slots, you could waste a couple of hours turning live rounds into empty cases. Instead, do a part-course, so you don't get wound up over the total score you shot. Do a bit of Finals training. Then take a good book, go find a quiet spot, and relax. Beware sunburn. If at Ardmore (NZ), make friends with the Range Cat :-) Of course, if you're English, it's a good idea to take a trip to a Malaysian island, go into the jungle in t-shirt, shorts, and sandals, get lost, separated, or heat exhausted, and rescued at 3am, then shoot your Commonwealth Championships match the next day...... ......and do well...... ...but I wouldn't recommend it :-) Martin Sinclair ****************************************************************** I also had a couple of thoughts on the training for the "big" match. I think everything is what you make of it, if practice for you is conducted mentally like a match i think you prepare yourself for the big match everyday. But, you have to be consistant when doing this. I've also been told that usually a day or two is good between practice and a match, depending on how much your shooting and what you are used to/comfortable with. Unfortunatly for some of us it also depends on our budgets! Thanks, Jason Knight UW Rifle ******************************************************************** Mr. Kurt Ingham posted a message about freesport in Switzerland. I've also done business with said store and its representative (Joe Ritter) and find him to be courteous and helpful. Thus, I may do business with him again. In fact, my next one with them is possibly a 300M rifle G & E. My question: Has Freesport exported to the US? Are they familiar with our importation process? Should I complete the BATF Form 6, and let my dealer do the rest (who, in this case, is likely to be Pilkgun's Warren Potter). Any help is appreciated. BTW, if there's a way to pass this on to Mr. Ingham, I'd be grateful. Regards, Satria R. Santoso ******************************************************************** Mike: You might mention, if you like, that the ISSF will most likely outlaw shooting trousers after the next Games in Greece. I got this from the "horses mouth", so to speak. I don't want to mention names right now, until it is official. Anyway, this might influence people who are thinking of buying clothing, etc. I suppose the pants would still be okay for everything else, but not ISSF matches. Don Williams, Oregon. ******************************************************************** Lasik Surgery Report... I had the surgery on 11/8 and shot my next match on 11/16. The day after the surgery the right eye was 20/30 the left was 20/15. One week later, i.e., 11/15 they were both 20/20. The left eye was cut to favor near vision and the right to favor a longer focal length. This was done even though I was not a candidate for the "monovision." People who are candidates can easily switch "dominance" to the eye with the better picture. For everyday life I have a trade off. I don't need reading glasses and far vision is not a problem either. Though my brain is still trying to reconcile the different focal lengths of the two eyes. Some stuff, text and sharply deifned objects, are a bit blurry due to the fighting over the dominance. If I cover either eye, than the other will focus very nicely since the dominace struggle is resolved. Back to the shooting... I took the lens off of my rifle shooting specs (Varga's shipped in from Potfire Arms -- www.potfire.com.au about $150 with extras) and with just the frame and a left eye blinder shot my season best with 4 position iron sites at a gallery match (385/400). I had been having problems with the lens in the shooting glasses and was very happy to get rid of it. I did find that I had to keep the rear appeture (sp) closed down pretty small or the front sight seemed to grey out a bit. Keeping the rear stopped down kept the front sharp and black. I have the one month examination in a few days. I suspect that the right eye is better than 20/20 right now. Bottom line is that I am happy with the result and find that my eye sight for the shooting sports are better than ever. Rich Hume ******************************************************************** About shooting jackets, I would advise begginers they buy the best they can, that could be the most expensive (thune). Personally I have a Gehmann mod. 401 jacket (Dobbler desing double canvas and leather, supposed to e the top model from Gehmann. I have it since about one year agon and I think it is loosing its stiffness. Can some one help me with this? Thanks, Guido LAstra Bogota, Colombia [Editor - It seems like I've heard that sprinkling it with water (and ironing it?) helps. I think I saw this "tip" in the Tips section of the AHG-Anschutz site a year or so ago. Not sure if it's still there.] ******************************************************************** I am interested in getting back in to the sport of 3-p shooting and currently live in the South Jersey area. The two clubs I currently belong to do not have any smallbore shooting programs. USANA - Use to have a smallbore program, But is now out of any type of Smallbore shooting programs all together. Cumberland Riflemen - Is primarily High Power shooting and plinking. Any help would be appreciated. Ron Hardholderrjm@aol.con or Ronald.Maxwell@NJATLA.ANG.AF.MIL ******************************************************************** Michael, The National Rifle Assoc (the bigbore shooting org in NZ) have had their ranges closed at Trentham. In has affected 50m and pistol ranges as well. No doubt you have probably had some of us emailing the list. This request is an APB to anyone in the shooting world who is / has been involved with Range Certification. What I, as a Range Inspector, want to find out DESPERATELY is the following: 1. Any information, source, CD, copy or whatever on a document called "Joint Services Publication 403" or JPS403.This is a Britich document that is floating around but anyone who is not attached to military does not get to see. It is 'restricted' in the parlance. Decisions in Britain, and now New Zealand, are being made and being referenced to this document. It is an extremely one sided battle. The civilian side do not get to see the evidience being used against us. 2. Does anyone know of any shooting ranges that have been allowed to shorten their safety zone by utilising what used to be called "Hill Background Dispensation". That is, using a high topograhic feature 200 - 300 metres or so from the targets, other than a man made wall. I am looking for verifiable information that includes contour maps and pictures. Anyone who can help could they please email me so that we can organise receipt of the info. Ross Mason: kriskross@paradise.net,nz Assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated by NZ shooters. Regards Ross Mason ******************************************************************** I was curious if any US shooters out there had some bright ideas on how to increase the participation at Tom Lowe Shooting Grounds (Wolf Creek) so our beautiful Olympic ranges do not befall a similar fate to NZ's Trentham range someday. It seems grossly underused from my point of view. It's amazing that such a facility is hardly used. I plan to bring this up at the NCAAs this year since I'm also amazed that essentially no NCAA teams go there. The Editor ******************************************************************** What type of prone mats do most of you use? I like the Thune mat (thick and cushy), but it is too expensive to buy for a whole team (I need 10). It seems most mats available in the US do not have much padding at all, and I for one like a lot of padding. Are there any alternatives that aren't so much? The Editor ******************************************************************** I've never really seen much about where your hand should be positioned relative to the hand stop. I have always put my hand directly against the stop which causes quite a bit of pain after a while since you need the sling tight so you have firm shoulder contact. I know some people do not use a stop per se at all though I'm not sure how they accomplish that. So what do all you great prone shooter do? The Editor ******************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #6 Michael Ray - DBA & Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm --=====================_479296501==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me.

In this issue:

Re: peak performance
Re: peak performance
Re: Freesport / 300M 3P rifle
ISSF to outlaw trousers 2004+ (rumor)
Lasik Surgery Report
Jacket losing stiffness
3P in southern NJ?
New Zealand ISSF range in trouble!
How to increase traffic at Atlanta Olympic complex?
Prone mats
Hand & hand stop position

******************************************************************

Only the obvious stuff, really :
- For the majority of us, where the "most important match" is at the weekend,
and you finish work on the Friday....
Make sure you're there in sufficient time, and that your admin is all
sorted out (there's nothing like arriving late, and having to rush your
preparation :-( ).
Make sure you've warmed up properly. A seven-hour drive from Scotland to
England the night before, a late arrival at the accommodation, and a night
in a strange (uncomfortable) bed is not the best way to treat your back
muscles. Travel a day early if possible.
- Where "most important" means spending two or three weeks away from home
with the advantage that you get several days training on the range (and
on the actual firing point) before each match.....
Make sure that by the time the match happens, you're completely
familiar with how the range operates (SIUS Ascor ? Wire changers ?
Gehmann boxes ? How to go from sighter to match ?). Have a good idea how
the wind, light. etc behave across the range, at the time of day that
you'll be shooting. Don't forget the final :-)
Assuming your technique is working well, your coach will probably be
discussing tactics with you. Are you feeling well ? Have you an upset
stomach ? What are your energy reserves like ? Are you better attacking
the conditions and shooting quickly, or waiting for the conditions to
reappear and being more deliberate ?
Avoid the temptation to start changing everything - stick with what
you know and have trained with. Your coach will advise.....
Don't overtrain. It's too easy to do. You're at the range, there may not
be huge pressures on the training slots, you could waste a couple of hours
turning live rounds into empty cases. Instead, do a part-course, so you
don't get wound up over the total score you shot. Do a bit of Finals
training. Then take a good book, go find a quiet spot, and relax. Beware
sunburn. If at Ardmore (NZ), make friends with the Range Cat :-)
Of course, if you're English, it's a good idea to take a trip to a
Malaysian island, go into the jungle in t-shirt, shorts, and sandals,
get lost, separated, or heat exhausted, and rescued at 3am, then shoot
your Commonwealth Championships match the next day......
......and do well......
...but I wouldn't recommend it :-)


Martin Sinclair

******************************************************************

I also had a couple of thoughts on the training for the "big" match. I think everything is what you make of it, if practice for you is conducted mentally like a match i think you prepare yourself for the big match everyday. But, you have to be consistant when doing this. I've also been told that usually a day or two is good between practice and a match, depending on how much your shooting and what you are used to/comfortable with. Unfortunatly for some of us it also depends on our budgets!
Thanks,
Jason Knight
UW Rifle

********************************************************************

Mr. Kurt Ingham posted a message about freesport in Switzerland. I've also done business with said store and its representative (Joe Ritter) and find him to be courteous and helpful. Thus, I may do business with him again.
In fact, my next one with them is possibly a 300M rifle G & E.
My question: Has Freesport exported to the US? Are they familiar with our importation process? Should I complete the BATF Form 6, and let my dealer do the rest (who, in this case, is likely to be Pilkgun's Warren Potter).
Any help is appreciated. BTW, if there's a way to pass this on to Mr. Ingham, I'd be grateful.
Regards,
Satria R. Santoso

********************************************************************

Mike: You might mention, if you like, that the ISSF will most likely
outlaw shooting trousers after the next Games in Greece. I got this from
the "horses mouth", so to speak. I don't want to mention names right
now, until it is official. Anyway, this might influence people who are
thinking of buying clothing, etc. I suppose the pants would still be
okay for everything else, but not ISSF matches.
Don Williams, Oregon.

********************************************************************

Lasik Surgery Report...
I had the surgery on 11/8 and shot my next match on 11/16. The day after
the surgery the right eye was 20/30 the left was 20/15. One week later, i.e., 11/15 they
were both 20/20. The left eye was cut to favor near vision and the right to favor a longer
focal length. This was done even though I was not a candidate for the "monovision." People who are
candidates can easily switch "dominance" to the eye with the better picture.

For everyday life I have a trade off. I don't need reading glasses and far vision is not a problem
either. Though my brain is still trying to reconcile the different focal lengths of the two eyes.
Some stuff, text and sharply deifned objects, are a bit blurry due to the fighting over the dominance.
If I cover either eye, than the other will focus very nicely since the dominace struggle is resolved.

Back to the shooting... I took the lens off of my rifle shooting specs (Varga's shipped in from
Potfire Arms -- www.potfire.com.au about $150 with extras) and with just the frame and
a left eye blinder shot my season best with 4 position iron sites at a gallery match (385/400). I had been
having problems with the lens in the shooting glasses and was very happy to get rid of it.

I did find that I had to keep the rear appeture (sp) closed down pretty small or the front sight seemed to
grey out a bit. Keeping the rear stopped down kept the front sharp and black.
I have the one month examination in a few days. I suspect that the right eye is better than 20/20 right now.
Bottom line is that I am happy with the result and find that my eye sight for the shooting sports are better than ever.

Rich Hume

********************************************************************

About shooting jackets, I would advise begginers they
buy the best they can, that could be the most
expensive (thune). Personally I have a Gehmann mod.
401 jacket (Dobbler desing double canvas and leather,
supposed to e the top model from Gehmann. I have it
since about one year agon and I think it is loosing
its stiffness. Can some one help me with this?
Thanks,
Guido LAstra
Bogota, Colombia

[Editor - It seems like I've heard that sprinkling it with water (and ironing it?) helps. I think I saw this "tip" in the Tips section of the AHG-Anschutz site a year or so ago. Not sure if it's still there.]

********************************************************************

I am interested in getting back in to the sport of 3-p shooting and
currently live in the South Jersey area. The two clubs I currently belong to
do not have any smallbore shooting programs.
USANA - Use to have a smallbore program, But is now out of any type of
Smallbore shooting programs all together.
Cumberland Riflemen - Is primarily High Power shooting and plinking.
Any help would be appreciated.
Ron
Hardholderrjm@aol.con
or
Ronald.Maxwell@NJATLA.ANG.AF.MIL

********************************************************************

Michael,
The National Rifle Assoc (the bigbore shooting org in NZ) have had their ranges closed at Trentham. In has affected 50m and pistol ranges as well. No doubt you have probably had some of us emailing the list.
This request is an APB to anyone in the shooting world who is / has been involved with Range Certification.
What I, as a Range Inspector, want to find out DESPERATELY is the following:
1. Any information, source, CD, copy or whatever on a document called "Joint Services Publication 403" or JPS403.This is a Britich document that is floating around but anyone who is not attached to military does not get to see. It is 'restricted' in the parlance.
Decisions in Britain, and now New Zealand, are being made and being referenced to this document. It is an extremely one sided battle. The civilian side do not get to see the evidience being used against us.
2. Does anyone know of any shooting ranges that have been allowed to shorten their safety zone by utilising what used to be called "Hill Background Dispensation". That is, using a high topograhic feature 200 - 300 metres or so from the targets, other than a man made wall. I am looking for verifiable information that includes contour maps and pictures.
Anyone who can help could they please email me so that we can organise receipt of the info.
Ross Mason: kriskross@paradise.net,nz
Assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated by NZ shooters.
Regards
Ross Mason

********************************************************************

I was curious if any US shooters out there had some bright ideas on how to increase the participation at Tom Lowe Shooting Grounds (Wolf Creek) so our beautiful Olympic ranges do not befall a similar fate to NZ's Trentham range someday.

It seems grossly underused from my point of view. It's amazing that such a facility is hardly used. I plan to bring this up at the NCAAs this year since I'm also amazed that essentially no NCAA teams go there.

The Editor

********************************************************************

What type of prone mats do most of you use? I like the Thune mat (thick and cushy), but it is too expensive to buy for a whole team (I need 10). It seems most mats available in the US do not have much padding at all, and I for one like a lot of padding. Are there any alternatives that aren't so much?

The Editor

********************************************************************

I've never really seen much about where your hand should be positioned relative to the hand stop. I have always put my hand directly against the stop which causes quite a bit of pain after a while since you need the sling tight so you have firm shoulder contact. I know some people do not use a stop per se at all though I'm not sure how they accomplish that. So what do all you great prone shooter do?

The Editor

********************************************************************
End of UIT Mailing List #6

Michael Ray - DBA & Systems Engineer
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach
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