From topshot@indy.net Sat Aug 26 03:42:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (really [127.0.0.1]) by cs.tcd.ie via in.smtpd with esmtp (ident dennehym using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:42:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from mail.cs.tcd.ie by fetchmail-4.6.4 POP3 for (single-drop); Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:42:00 IST Received: from mail017.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT001.ONEMAIN.COM [63.208.208.71]) by relay.cs.tcd.ie (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA23837 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:41:22 +0100 (IST) Received: (qmail 6674 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2000 02:39:39 -0000 Received: from ip209-183-88-96.ts.indy.net (HELO raym-pc-1.indy.net) ([209.183.88.96]) (envelope-sender ) by mail017.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Aug 2000 02:39:39 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.1.20000825212357.00c356c0@pop.indy.net> X-Sender: topshot@pop.indy.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:40:25 -0500 To: topshot@indy.net From: Michael Ray Subject: UIT Mailing List Vol. 4 - #28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_296525541==_.ALT" X-UIDL: LI*#!8P(!!M_U!!7S8!! Status: RO Content-Length: 13693 Lines: 319 --=====================_296525541==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me. In this issue: Re: Eating and shooting / MEC Tube / need kneeling help Sydney shooting events on TV? Re: Need Winchester 52D Info Re: Need Winchester 52D Info Re: Need Winchester 52D Info Re: Need Winchester 52D Info Re: Need Winchester 52D Info ****************************************************************** Dear Michael, I see you are disfcussing a lot about eating and shooting. After reading some books, I made some experiments, having little, moderate, carbohydrate-rich, before, during and after a match. My conclusions,at least the ones that gave good results in 3P and air rifle, in case they are usefull to anyone are: 1. a light breakfast, with moderate amount of carbohydrates (mainly bread and bread related food)is best about two hours before shooting. A big breakfast, with eggs, jam and cheese did not worked well. 2. during the match, small amounts of chocolate seem to calm down my nerves and improves my pulse. I do not know if anyone agrees with me at this point. 3. Not to change my feeding habits before a competition I hope this personal experience could be somehow usefull to your readers. Changing of topic, I want to tell you about the MEC tube. I was in Atlanta World Cup, and I saw almost nobody using it. My results fell down considerable using it, I guess the balance of the whole weapon change, just as happen with the foresight and it relationship with the targe image. Taking it out improved my air rifle shooting Finally, I wonder ir anyone can help me, again, with the building of the kneelling position, as well as the main considerations to be taken with respect to its internal position and where the concentration should be directed to. Thanks Michael, great job. Guido Lastra COlombia ******************************************************************** Does anyone know of any TV-channels that are planning to broadcast the Sydney shooting events? [Editor - in Atlanta they had a European crew there which was supposedly broadcasting the finals live. I did not see them filming the qualifications. I'm sorry I don't recall the company, but they ran their feed onto the monitors in the finals area as well so the crowd could watch it too. You could watch their commercials as well. We're pretty well screwed here in the US unless you can catch it off the satellite. I love to get a copy of whatever video does come out.] ******************************************************************** The 52. is a 22LR cal rifle made by Winchester for precision competition. Most collegiate and junior shooters who cannot afford the Anschutz have learned on 52's. It is a very good shooting rifle and is a good precision rifle. The care and cleaning is the same as for any other rifle. If you get a good stock then keep the oil away from the wood as this will turn it to a sponge and will not support the recoil of the rifle. You have received a fine precision rifle. Don't abuse it and it will give you many enjoyable shooting hours. As with any competition rifle the chamber should be checked for erosion as this will effect the precision shooting abilities. Winchester made a find rifle and a lot of begining athletes started with one and then transferred to Anschutz. But a lot rebarrelled and did just as well as an anschutz rifle. Good Shooting. Chet Skinner, Coach cskinner@dol.net http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/dome/4512/index.html ******************************************************************** Winchester 52D Info Lucky you. Its real hard to find a Win. 52. The 52D is a single shot target gun. It came in 3 weights, standard, heavy and bull barrels. The only tricky part of the rifle is taking the bolt out. With the bolt closed and uncocked, push the tigger forward and at the same time open the bolt. To put it back, put the bolt in until it stops on a small lever in the receiver. (This is how I hold I do it.) With the right thumb holding the bolt against the lever and pulling on the trigger, with the left hand stick your finger in the receiver and push the lever down. The bolt will slip pass the lever and is ready to use. (Sometimes we could use three hands.) As for cleaning, it depends on the gun. Some will shoot dirty, some won't. There's a whole bunch of opinions on cleaning. Testing is the only way to find out. Shoot some test groups. Then shot the gun. After a couple of hundred shots, fire more test groups. See if there is a differenece. If its bigger, clean the gun and shoot some more test groups. Did it shrink? If yes, you need to clean. That's about all you need to do. By the way, if you clean the gun, keep the solvent from going into the trigger. Some turn the gun upside down when they clean. If you want to take the gun apart, there's two action screws. One behind the trigger and the other in the rail. (There's a third screw behind the bolt. You might have to hold that one while you loosen the one behind the trigger. Three hands again.) Have fun, Alan ******************************************************************** You can download the manual for Winchester 52B at: USRAC Winchester Rifles & Shotguns Owner's Manuals , I think that 52D is not much different. ******************************************************************** Mr. Willats: I believe that the Winchester 52-D was only a single shot model, that is, it was not magazine fed like the B or C models. And as I recall, up until 1969 there were only approximately 125,250? made. There were some made after '69 but were called E models and had something faintly reminescant of a Freeland free rifle stock. Hope that helps. D Lee ****************************************************************** The 52D is a single shot the 52C has a magazine. This is a fine rifle to hold onto as a collector if nothing else. They have a very wide trigger and fast lock time. I have seen some around the BR-50 matches but cannot remember one being very competitive. J.D. Hicks ******************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #28 Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm --=====================_296525541==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Please e-mail address changes, unsubscribe requests, or submissions to me.

In this issue:

Re: Eating and shooting / MEC Tube / need kneeling help
Sydney shooting events on TV?
Re: Need Winchester 52D Info
Re: Need Winchester 52D Info
Re: Need Winchester 52D Info
Re: Need Winchester 52D Info
Re: Need Winchester 52D Info

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Dear Michael,
I see you are disfcussing a lot about eating and
shooting. After reading some books, I made some
experiments, having little, moderate,
carbohydrate-rich, before, during and after a match.
My conclusions,at least the ones that gave good
results in 3P and air rifle, in case they are usefull
to anyone are:
1. a light breakfast, with moderate amount of
carbohydrates (mainly bread and bread related food)is
best about two hours before shooting. A big breakfast,
with eggs, jam and cheese did not worked well.
2. during the match, small amounts of chocolate seem
to calm down my nerves and improves my pulse. I do not
know if anyone agrees with me at this point.
3. Not to change my feeding habits before a
competition
I hope this personal experience could be somehow
usefull to your readers.

Changing of topic, I want to tell you about the MEC
tube. I was in Atlanta World Cup, and I saw almost
nobody using it. My results fell down considerable
using it, I guess the balance of the whole weapon
change, just as happen with the foresight and it
relationship with the targe image. Taking it out
improved my air rifle shooting

Finally, I wonder ir anyone can help me, again, with
the building of the kneelling position, as well as the
main considerations to be taken with respect to its
internal position and where the concentration should
be directed to.
Thanks Michael, great job.
Guido Lastra
COlombia

********************************************************************

Does anyone know of any TV-channels that are planning to broadcast the Sydney
shooting events?

[Editor - in Atlanta they had a European crew there which was supposedly broadcasting the finals live. I did not see them filming the qualifications. I'm sorry I don't recall the company, but they ran their feed onto the monitors in the finals area as well so the crowd could watch it too. You could watch their commercials as well. We're pretty well screwed here in the US unless you can catch it off the satellite. I love to get a copy of whatever video does come out.]

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The 52. is a 22LR cal rifle made by Winchester for precision competition.
Most collegiate and junior shooters who cannot afford the Anschutz have
learned on 52's.
It is a very good shooting rifle and is a good precision rifle. The care
and cleaning is the same as for any other rifle. If you get a good stock
then keep the oil away from the wood as this will turn it to a sponge and
will not support the recoil of the rifle.
You have received a fine precision rifle. Don't abuse it and it will give
you many enjoyable shooting hours. As with any competition rifle the
chamber should be checked for erosion as this will effect the precision
shooting abilities. Winchester made a find rifle and a lot of begining
athletes started with one and then transferred to Anschutz. But a lot
rebarrelled and did just as well as an anschutz rifle. Good Shooting.
Chet Skinner, Coach
cskinner@dol.net
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/dome/4512/index.html

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Winchester 52D Info
Lucky you. Its real hard to find a Win. 52. The 52D is a single shot target gun. It came in 3 weights, standard, heavy and bull barrels. The only tricky part of the rifle is taking the bolt out. With the bolt closed and uncocked, push the tigger forward and at the same time open the bolt. To put it back, put the bolt in until it stops on a small lever in the receiver. (This is how I hold I do it.) With the right thumb holding the bolt against the lever and pulling on the trigger, with the left hand stick your finger in the receiver and push the lever down. The bolt will slip pass the lever and is ready to use. (Sometimes we could use three hands.)
As for cleaning, it depends on the gun. Some will shoot dirty, some won't. There's a whole bunch of opinions on cleaning. Testing is the only way to find out. Shoot some test groups. Then shot the gun. After a couple of hundred shots, fire more test groups. See if there is a differenece. If its bigger, clean the gun and shoot some more test groups. Did it shrink? If yes, you need to clean.
That's about all you need to do. By the way, if you clean the gun, keep the solvent from going into the trigger. Some turn the gun upside down when they clean. If you want to take the gun apart, there's two action screws. One behind the trigger and the other in the rail. (There's a third screw behind the bolt. You might have to hold that one while you loosen the one behind the trigger. Three hands again.)
Have fun,
Alan

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You can download the manual for Winchester 52B at: <A
HREF="http://www.usracmfg.com/manuals.htm">USRAC Winchester Rifles & Shotguns
Owner's Manuals</A> , I think that 52D is not much different.

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Mr. Willats:
I believe that the Winchester 52-D was only a single shot model,
that is, it was not magazine fed like the B or C models. And as I recall,
up until 1969 there were only approximately 125,250? made. There were
some made after '69 but were called E models and had something faintly
reminescant of a Freeland free rifle stock.
Hope that helps.

D Lee

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The 52D is a single shot the 52C has a magazine.
This is a fine rifle to hold onto as a collector if nothing else.
They have a very wide trigger and fast lock time.
I have seen some around the BR-50 matches but cannot remember
one being very competitive.

J.D. Hicks

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End of UIT Mailing List #28

Michael Ray - Systems Engineer
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach
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