FYI, I am resending this because it appears it never made it for some reason as I have never gotten my cc or the usual "Cannot send for 4 hours" notifications. I have added one article to the top that just came in for those of you who may have already received this so throw away the original. In this issue: Re: Walther problems (low shots) Eley ammo / Anschutz aluminum stock Re: Cooking ammo Report from Munich Anschutz aluminum stock torque Sad news ******************************************************************** Hi Michael, Re Curt's problem of low shots after changing targets. Yes it appears to be a regular problem as far as I can see. I won't say everyone suffers, but me and a clubmate do for certain and others I know seem to take precautions against it. The cure seems to be to keep the chamber closed while the rifle is idle. I have noticed that the effect is definitely more pronounced outdoor rather than Indoor. A couple of "warming shots" indoors is enough to keep the group tight for any subsequent shooting for the next few hours anyway. Outdoors it is a different story. Finals are a good example, especially with manual marking where others need to run and change targets after each shot to get them marked. The delay can be too long between shots. The chamber definitely needs protecting at this time. Closing the bolt is frowned upon so a finger is usually stuck up it. We have taken to mark visually and fire an extra shot in case of tie-breaks then confirm the score later. A few years ago Eley put out a red "safety plug" that plugged into the chamber. This was/is used to indicate the chamber is empty and the rifle is safe at a glance. I have seen people utilise this between shots during finals. My theory is that volatile lubricants and other liquids left over from the firing are flushed and evaporate very quickly outdoors - especially with a bit of wind and high temperature around. Obviously indoors the flushing breeze is not present. No lube, no seal, lower velocity(?), low shot. In our cases, anywhere from 5 o'clock to 7 o'clock and at least a 7! Curt has discovered another piece of "experience"! Tuck it away. Regards Ross Mason ******************************************************************** Dear Mike, We had been using the R50 0.22lr which was a difficult ammo to come by. The stock is now exhausted and we will not see another batch for some months to come. You may recall from my last mail, rifle shooting is not a highly participated sport in Pakistan hence little attention is paid to it's needs & logistics and coupled with the restrictions on arms/ammo the problem is compounded. All we have now in sizable stock is Eley Club Xtra. Some of us find it's performance a bit unpredictable or maybe it is just our imagination. Can anyone comment on this ammo's performance & accuracy, someone who has used it for a while or extensively. This would be really helpful. As a separate question has anyone tested the new Anschutz ALU 2213 aluminum stock? How does it perform, especially in the prone position? Usman sadiqahu@cyber.net.pk [Editor - You're findings are probably correct. I've heard of some who have had problems with Tenex as well. Many have questioned Eley's QC in recent years. See last issue for a concern with some aluminum stocks and the Munich report below.] ******************************************************************** >So if you step 4 and leave the round in the chamber for 6 seconds, eject it >and use it for your next practice period. It is no longer any good in >respect to precision competition. With all respect to Chet Skinner, I do not believe that 0.22 ISSF firers should concern themselves with a 6-second maximum time for a round in the chamber. They are more likely to introduce error by rushing to position their right hand and elbow, then get the shot away, than to reduce any miniscule error caused by leaving the 0.22 round in the chamber for a while longer. To bear this out, watch an Olympic Final shot by world-class shooters. Given the commands "For your xth shot, load : 5,4,3,2,1, start" they don't fire immediately, and occasionally use the full period. One given reason that rounds should not be used after chambering is that once chambered, the bullet head has engaged with the lands of the barrel, leaving a mark. The bullet is unlikely to be reinserted into the same alignment, the second time it is chambered. Martin Sinclair [Editor - I think Chet was more concerned with 300m where this could have a noticeable effect.] ****************************************************************** News From world Cup Munich I bought a new 1913 with 2213 alu-stock! it was a great rifle. I fired 378 standing who is my best score in int. Matches. I Think this alustock needs some improvements. The printed scales in stock to prepare the rifle for each position are very imprecise and some times inexistent, but the "felling" and balance of the rifle is very good, making the act of shot a pleasure! the wood palm-rest isnt usefull for me because it is very short in height. I bought the rifle with a unversal palm-rest who is more adjustable. The two first in 3x40 were Gonci (1181 +final) and Hirvi (1177+Final) both with the new model. Stenvaag took the bronze with 1177 + final with his old rifle... I saw the new P70 with aluminium stock and it is amazing... So i think the air-rifles soon will become a air-free-rifles... Nice gun. Prone position were won by Sergei Beliaev who start in second prior to the final, defeating Hubert Bichler who was shooting with a FWB 2602 aluminium (599) The final in air rifle man showed a very interesting thing: There was two Steirs, two Walthers, two Anschutz and two FWBs. Fabio Coelho fjc@mandic.com.br Visite meu site na internet: http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/arena/7456 ****************************************************************** Alu-Stock torque Talking with the gunsmith of Anchutz motorhome in Munich, he told me that the torque for 1913 action in the alu-stock must be between 6.0 and 6.5 Nm, more than recommended to wood stocks (5Nm). The screws for the alu-stock are simple and do not have the "pressure rings" as the screws used for 1913 with wood stocks. Fabio Coelho fjc@mandic.com.br Conheça o Tiro Desportivo Olímpico em: ( Olympic Rifle Shooting Site) http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/arena/7456 ****************************************************************** Mike, Your newsletter reaches far.....this might be of interest to some of you readers.. Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: shootx To: Arnold, Archibald V III COL ; D M Low ; Eric Uptagrafft Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 7:34 PM Subject: Sad News >From the Denver Post, Thursday May 27th.... "Injured climber flown to Denver.... A Franktown native who was injured in a climbing accident in Alaska was flown to Centura St. Anthony Central Hospital late Wednesday night. The climber, Dan Jordan, is a student at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks. He was injured Sunday when he apparently fell onto a pile of rocks. The Fairbanks Daily News Miner reported that Jordan sustained a broken back and internal injuries. Jordan is a member of the school's rifle team. In his first two years on the team, he earned all-America honors at the NCAA championships." We all know he was one of the best junior shooters around, and a good bet for greatness in shooting. Additional info.....Sandra Rabenstein called me this evening and said she had talked to Dan's father about 2 PM today. Dan had just finished surgery. His back is fractured in two places and the spinal cord was severed. He will be in intensive care for a few days, so no flowers. Cards will be welcomed. Hospital address: Centura St. Anthony Central Hospital 4231 W. 16th Ave. Denver, CO 80204 Sorry to report this... See you all in a couple of weeks. Allen ****************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #28 Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm