Once again I have built up too many messages to post in one mailing (in case some of your e-mail servers or programs can't handle large e-mails). Thus, another issue will come out this weekend with the remainder of what's queued up. In this issue: High Standard Victor trigger UIT coaching and training in Singapore??? Re: Pistol aiming technique Re: BRNO TAU7 Re: BRNO TAU7 / Pistol aiming technique Re: Pistol aiming technique Re: How to use iris in pistol Re: Rifle shooting glasses / eye relief / filters Re: BRNO TAU7 Re: Rifle torque settings Re: BRNO TAU7 ******************************************************************** I have a problem with the trigger on a High Standard Victor, the pull is inconsistent. If I cock the gun with my finger on the trigger the letoff is lighter than if I cock gun with my finger off the trigger. This gun recently failed spec at the Asia Pacific Masters Games, causing me to miss the shoot. Yet the gun passed spec only three weeks earlier. Can anyone on the list offer any help - anyone into High Standard guns? Thanks ERNEST. [Editor - perhaps a stupid question, but have you cleaned and lubed the trigger mechanisms lately? Can make a world of difference if it's dirty.] ****************************************************************** My name is Kalipermal George and I am from Singapore. I am a pistol shooter and my score at the moment is 560. I also started to shoot the Free pistol score 535. Some of my friends in Singapore wanted to know about the UIT coaching course. They also wanted to know were they can attend UIT shooting training. Thank you and best regards. K. George ****************************************************************** RE: PISTOL AIMING Just a couple of things on pistol aiming technique. There are two different techniques for slow fire and rapid fire. For slow fire (air pistol, free pistol etc.) it is a MUST that you rise your pistol above the target and then let it go down to the aiming area. This is not a waste of time and energy as someone said. It has a benefitial effect on your arm and shoulder muscles and also improves concentration. I don't think there is any single world class shooter not using this technique for slow fire. Of course in rapid fire you cannot use this technique since you do not have enough time to do so. And in any case, the method of breathing for both disciplines is different so you would not be able to do it properly even if you wanted. Therefore, for rapid fire you never use this method. In the case of rapid fire, yes, it would be a waste of time and energy. One person mentioned that coming down to bull was the East European method. This is not exactly so. The East European method or "shooting on the move" is only used on slow fire and consists of shooting as you lower the arm very slowly and reach the aiming area WITHOUT STOPPING at the aiming area. This requires a very high coordination so it has been replaced by the pulsation method, especially in Free Pistol. I hope this helps. (Sorry if there are any errors on the text but English is not my Mother Tongue) Isaias de la Pena siccis@netcom.es [Editor - I guess he set me straight! ] ****************************************************************** According to literature, each 12 gram CO2 powerlet can provide 90 to 110 useful shots depending on velocity (which is adjustable). My Tau-7 consistantly gave me 115 shots before CO2 is exhausted, but last 5 is not good. I think each fresh powerlet should provide ample shots for a match. Tau-7 also can be bulk-fill from a 120 gram bottle, in that case CO2 can be filled whenever it is needed. Hope this information can help. George Chiu ****************************************************************** I'll begin by responding to the question concerning the number of shots attainable from the Brno Tau 7. I previously owned a Tau-7 and routinely obtained 80-90 shots from a single CO2 charge from the bulk cylinder. In order to increase the number of shots you can get from a single fill, first fill the cylinder as you normally would. Then, press the cocking lever forward to expel the CO2. This cools the cylinder, allowing more liquid CO2 to be introduced. While the cylinder is still cool, refill it. Second, with regard to the discussion as to whether it is best to raise the pistol above the target, I think it is largely a matter of personal preference. The former Olympic free pistol champion Harald Volmar successfully used the method described in the last issue of the list, whereby the trigger was operated without stopping the downward motion of the pistol. Apparently, the downward movement stabilized the muzzle somewhat. It has been my experience that I achieve a more stable hold and a smaller area of aim by raising the pistol above the target, but clearly this is only valid for the precision pistol disciplines. My suggestion is to try it both ways and see what works best for you. Good Shooting, Steve Desrocher ****************************************************************** I was discussing the method of aquiring the pistol target from below then over and the below again with one of the finest East european coaches from Bulgaria. They prefer this method not for better target aquisition but for forcing the body of the shooter to lock in a rearward point so that the balancing center will be to your heels. It is their way to position your body further behind. And for this reason they force some ladies (with weak back muscles) to bend their knees inward. They seem to give a lot of attention to have your balancing center way behind your heels. George [Editor - I find that interesting because I would say it's the opposite in rifle (at least for me and what I tell my shooters). I feel much more off balance on my heels and have a lot more control when the weight is shifted slightly toward the balls of the feet.] ****************************************************************** I am a frequent visitor of your site as I am too a UIT shooter for every Pistol desipline. I am one of the lucky few to have my shooting glasses made directly to the Champion factory. The main importer of Champion in my country (Greece) is my best friend. As we were planning to visit the Nurnberg Gun Show in Germany I faxed them and asked for a pair of Champion Olympic with some special features AND a complete set of accessories. My pair was handled to me by one of the guys working at the Champion factory (or maybe laboratory as it is too small :o) ). We discussed a lot of things but one thing is sure. The iris goes near the eye, that is behind the lens. And this is true for every shooting descipline. And one more thing, do not use a lens with exact match to your prescription, if you are shooting a pistol. Instead add a .25 to .50D . This way it is easier to see both front and rear sights. I can e-mail you a scanned pic of the brochure about accessories and technical info if you wish. Hope to meet someday (maybe Sidney :0) ) George [Editor - I got set straight again! Isn't it wonderful what you can learn?] ****************************************************************** >[Editor - I've never seen anyone where it on the inside. In rifle, they say >you should have at least 2" eye relief. I spent half an hour at my last eye appointment trying to get my optician to explain the theory behind the optics involved in rifle. While reputable books and some coaches had advised 5cm to 10cm eye relief, he advised getting my eye relief to "as close as possible". As a result, the front of my shooting lens is mm away from the rearsight. He certainly reckoned that 10cm was too far. [Editor - which seems to correspond with George's findings above.] If this is so, it would imply that sights where the iris is the rearmost part (with adjustable filters in front of the iris) are preferable to the sights where the filters are between the eye and the iris The other pieces of information were that he explained - Why to use polarisers in preference to grey filters (because when the unpolarised sun reflects off a surface, the reflected light / glare _is_ polarised, and can be reduced without too much light loss in the whole sight picture) - Why German sights include a green filter as well as a yellow filter (yellow filter enhances black/white contrast in dull conditions, green filter enhances red/white contrast in dull conditions, and Germans sometimes shoot at red targets in domestic competition) As to apertures, using an unmodified 1413 outdoors, I shoot with a 1.0mm rear iris and about 3-4cm eye relief, and 3.8mm front aperture for prone / 3.9mm standing and kneeling. The extra white around the bull seems to allow for easier control of aim-off when shading the wind. Finally, Michael was right about my last post - I use large lenses for increased peripheral vision, in order to watch wind without moving my head. I can return my eyeballs to the aim far faster than my entire head, and with greater consistency :-) Martin Sinclair Auckland in 1999 ? ****************************************************************** RE TAU-7 Air Pistol. Someone wanted to know how many shots a TAU-7 gets from a co2 charge. I use a TAU-7 Pistol in Cairns Australia. I get about 90 shots from a 12gm CO2 powerlet before the pressure beings to drop. So when shooting a match, I only take approx 10-15 practice shots before starting my match. I don't use the larger air cylender which came supplied, the powerlets are more convienent. I am only a novice shooter, after only 4 months shooting, I have just broken into C grade, still learning and having a lot of fun. Nick Trabant ****************************************************************** I have not responded before, but now my time has come ;-) I have been playing a lot with the torque on my (and others) riffle (Anschutz) and I found out that there is a big difference between the riffle, ammunition and the torque. On my riffle: if the torque is to low (5Nm) I get a flat hole (long in horizontal and short in vertical direction) if the torque is to high (8Nm) it turns around (short in horizontal and long in vertical direction) I use for the "Lapua Master" approx. 6.5Nm to get a perfect round hole. Now if you change the ammunition type the torque can change a bit On the different riffles(Anschutz) I have tried this on have I NEVER found the recommended torque useful, it has always been a little higher (5.5 to 7) I defiantly recommend that You check this out on your riffle !! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards / Hilsner Poul Torp mailto:pt@lif.dk http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/4590/ ICQ:1320454 Denmark ****************************************************************** I would like to say that air pistol Tau 7 (brno) is for one bullet only. Aeron Brno makes air rapid rapid pistol for 5 bullets. This pistol is called B-96, has similar design like Tau 7 but it has more news from Tau 7, mainly trigger mechanismus and moving with the grip are better than Tau 7. B-96 has magazin for one and five shoots too but the gas container is the same like Tau 7 (is very limited, 60 -70 shhots for one rechaging). Best regards Peter Mlynarcik ****************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #10 Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm