In this issue: Indoor shooting range info needed European veteran shooting update Shooting glasses vs. contacts "Calling the Shot" group 24 hour air rifle match results ******************************************************************** Mike, In browsing through past mailing lists, I came across your request for range information. The range on our campus is slated to be torn down in the near future to make room for a new academic building. The school President has indicated a desire to build a new range and has tasked me to begin gathering information on construction requirements, cost, environmental requirements, etc. I noticed in another issue (don't know which one) that you are nearing completion on your range. May I ask what information were you able to obtain regarding building type, exhaust system, trap, etc.? Environmental issues are my biggest concern at the present and I believe may be the biggest cost issue as well. Cost of construction is going to be the deciding factor as to whether we get a new range for both smallbore and air rifle or are relagated to the gym floor and restricted to air rifle use only. Any information, or sources of information, you or any readers could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ron Crawford Rifle Coach, Georgia Military College rcrawfor@gmc.cc.ga.us [Editor - There aren't too many requirements that I found for private low-volume ranges. The EPA doesn't step in unless you shoot a certain amount per year which someone indicated was more than a million rounds. Thus, I think you should worry about state regs more. Our range is going under the stadium bleachers (precast concrete), which is fairly common. Originally we were going to have concrete block walls but a design flaw has limited the height of those to 15' so we have been delayed a bit while they figure out how to do the remaining height. As for the trap, we will be constructing our own version of a rubber composite style (eg, Caswell's GranTrap). This is better for the environment since you have no splatter. I would not get the rubber "blocks" on the market as they have to be thrown out eventually as Haz Mat. You can mail me again if you have spcific questions - I'm sure I'll have an opinion at least!] ****************************************************************** RE: Veteran Shooting -------------------- Referring to my previous mails inserted into your "UIT Mailing List" about Veteran Shooter's activities I am to inform that the official report on the very fine competiton of the veterans has been published: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/8181/veterans.html First anouncement and call for co-operation and participation ------------------------------------------------------------- E-Postal Shooting Veterans Air Gun Competition 1-st / 3-rd January 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------- details will follow soon. wi-ko@geocities.com ****************************************************************** Also, I have a question about shooting (prone) with contact lenses vs. shooting with shooting glasses. Eitan Barazani ytd@ibm.net [Editor - if your eyes don't have a problem with drying out on the range, then contacts should work OK. One benefit I've found with shooting glasses is it's very easy to tell if your head is in the exact same spot based on the relationship of the lensholder and the rear sight.] ****************************************************************** Regarding the "CTS" group, discussion on the topic pretty much ground to a halt a few weeks ago. The major stumbling block, it seemed to me, was an inability to reach a working definition of CTS. Some used the classic definiton of predicting point of impact, others were more of the opinion that CTS should involve comparing the fired shot to an "ideal" or "model" shot, while still others held that any retrospective activity detracted from firing the next shot. And, of course, there was much (sometimes heated!) discussion of environmental conditions on the flight of the bullet. At the end, however, nothing was decided. If any one point seemed to generate agreement, it was that the skill becomes increasingly more refined as the shooter improves, to the point where the best shooters "call" only 10s. Whether this is a physical judgement of performance by the shooter, or if the shooter mentally "caused" the perfect shot to occur, is still a topic of debate. Speaking for myself, I do not think it will be settled within the group. Congratulations on the birth of your son! Tom [Editor - well, I guess we're bound to have some controversy here at times. It is difficult to debate a point such as this via e-mail. It really should be done face to face.] ****************************************************************** Hi all, There is the results of the 24 hours competition (air rifle) 15th and 16th August 1997, Cortaillod Switzerland Shooters : Martin Rosenfeld and Christophe Jeanneret We started the competition Friday 15th at 8h00 pm and we finished Saturday 16th at 8h00 pm MARTIN ROSENFELD Nbr lenght of Results Match the match in minutes 1 1.00 to 8.55 pm at 9.55 pm 93 97 93 93 93 93 555 2 1.05 to 9.55 pm at 11.00 pm 96 92 95 90 92 99 564 3 0.56 to 1.19 am at 2.15 am 93 94 96 97 95 93 568 4 1.03 to 3.00 am at 4.03 am 93 94 91 92 93 90 553 5 1.15 to 5.15 am at 6.30 am 94 91 94 93 92 91 555 6 1.05 to 7.35 am at 8.40 am 90 95 93 92 89 92 551 7 1.00 to 9.50 am at 10.50 am 95 94 95 94 93 94 565 8 1.00 to 11.50 am at 12.50 pm 94 92 94 96 94 97 567 9 1.14 to 13.50 pm at 15.04 pm 90 94 97 92 94 93 560 10 0.57 to 16.09 pm at 17.06 pm 95 88 90 91 95 93 552 11 0.50 to 18.04 pm at 18.54 pm 91 93 88 97 92 94 555 12 0.23 to 19.30 pm at 19.53 pm 94 94 92 280 TOTAL 6425 CHRISTOPHE JEANNERET Nbr lenght of Results Match the match in minutes 1 0.55 to 8.00 pm at 8.55 pm 93 89 89 95 94 93 553 2 1.00 to 9.55 pm at 10.55 pm 87 88 96 88 92 99 550 3 1.26 to 11.55 pm at 1.19 am 98 93 96 94 96 92 569 4 0.45 to 2.15 am at 3.00 am 90 89 95 94 88 96 552 5 1.05 to 4.10 am at 5.15 am 97 95 92 92 93 94 563 6 1.05 to 6.30 am at 7.35 am 92 92 88 93 97 91 553 7 1.05 to 8.40 am to 9.45 am 95 89 92 94 94 96 560 8 1.00 to 10.50 am to 11.50 am 92 93 96 96 96 94 567 9 1.00 to 12.50 pm at 1.50 pm 94 96 91 94 95 95 565 10 1.05 to 3.04 pm at 4.09 pm 93 94 94 95 94 94 564 11 0.58 to 5.06 pm at 6.04 pm 92 92 96 92 93 94 559 12 0.30 to 7.00 pm at 7.30 pm 94 92 93 279 TOTAL 6434 If you want more informations about this competition please send me a email. Best regards, Martin -- "La seule limite a nos realisations de demain sera nos doutes d'aujourd'hui" ________________________________________________________________ Martin Rosenfeld Inventory Control Logistics European Manufacturing Center Silicon Graphics E-mail : martin@bipbip.neu.sgi.com ****************************************************************** End of UIT Mailing List #5 Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach UIT Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/index.htm