I'd like to welcome you all to the mailing list. First I apologize for the huge initial message because of all the recipients. I hope I have solved that this time. Let's lay down a few guidelines for the list before we begin. I want to be pretty relaxed so there won't be too many rules and they will be open for discussion if you have a problem with them. 1. No pure commercial announcements. If you wish to mention a product or service you offer in the process of answering someone's question, feel free. If you mention every single time you answer I will probably ask you to stop. The exception to this that I will allow is your signature file. I would ask that you limit your sig files to 3 lines if possible (like mine). 2. All questions and answers should be directed to the list keeper, which is me (topshot@indy.net) at this point in time. I will then compile the messages I have received (in the order I receive them) every couple days depending on how many I have and mail them out as one message so this will be a digest type mailing list. 3. You may answer someone directly if you wish, but I'd prefer that you don't so your views can benefit everyone. However, if it has nothing to do with the normal content of the list, then I would encourage a direct reply to the person. 4. No flames will be allowed. 5. Content: Currently the list will cover anything to do with equipment, positions, competing, coaching, or otherwise directly related to UIT shooting events, to include rifle, pistol, shotgun, and running target. That's about it. Seems pretty simple and painless to me. ********************************* I have the first question. I want to know if there's any practical advantage to the laminated stocks that are popular on match air rifles. I know they are effected less by temperature and humidity fluctuations, but why would this have any effect for an air rifle? My Anschutz 2002 (which is NOT laminated) action basically runs the entire length of the stock and has a screw at each end. The barrel/sighting apparatus sits on top of that. I do not see why having the stock change shape would effect performance when my barrel is isolated from it by the large metal action. A corollary to this is: why are laminated stocks NOT used much for smallbore? Is it because people normally bed their actions? If so, why does just a little fiberglass between the wood and action make much difference? It would seem stock changes would still alter the tension against the action, though in a more consistent manner. I think a fiberglass stock is the way to go for smallbore. So tell me why a laminated stock is worth the extra money for an air rifle. Thanks. I need to buy some very soon. Am thinking of the Walther LGM-2. ********************************** FYI, there is a new airgun postal series being started. His message appears below. PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY TO HIM, NOT THE LIST! I'm planning on running these matches every two weeks. The first one starts on Sunday 8 SEP with all results Emailed to me by 21 Sep. I will then post the dates for the next match. This is not the normal postal match. There is no entry fee and you shoot at your own targets and score them yourself, then email me your score. Full details are on my homepage (http//:www.geocities.com/Colosseum/2161/index.htm). There is a catagory for airpistol and one for air rifle. Standard rules apply. Please score your target fairly. I initially was not planning on any type of award but have since decided to award certificates to 1st-3rd in both pistol and rifle. To register send me the following information: Name Pistol, Rifle or both Model of the airgun you are using Experience (Novice, Intermediate, Expert, or somewhere in between) Kind of Pellet (R-10, MK, Hobby ect) Email address Any Comments you may have Scores will be posted on my homepage at the end of the match. I will then contact the winners to get the postal address so I can send out the certificates, by the way my wife is designing and printing the certificates for the matches. I will also keep track of all the scores for all of my matches and post a running average for each shooter. Then later this winter I will conduct a handicaped match complete with entry fee and trophies. Please remember I am only one person and am doing this simply because I love shooting airguns and like getting involved with things. I am not looking to make money. Thanks for your interest and look forward to receiving your entry. Good Shooting, Mike Koratich ckoratic@ix.netcom.com ********************************** FYI, another mailing list is starting for pistol bullseye shooting. While not UIT, I know there are many pistol people on the list so am passing this on if they are interested. Subscription instructions are included in his message. Attention Bulleye Pistol Shooters: A new mailing list, bullseye-l, has been created that is designed to cater to our specific needs and interests. We will be discussing such things as load data, custom guns, technique tips, rules & regulations, club & match contact information, etc., and the limited advertising of bullseye-specific items will also be permitted so long as it doesn't get out of hand. Mostly, it is hoped that the forum will allow us to widen our circle of bullseye enthusiast friends beyond current geographical and/or logistical limitations. In regards to my earlier posts in rec.guns, I apologize for not getting the list online sooner. There was a technical problem that my ISP was unable to debug, and we ultimately had to reinstall the whole thing. We've been testing the new setup for a few days and everything seems to be working perfectly. [Special thanks to my new friend Geoff Beneze for his patience and willingness to help me out through the entire setup process!] Here are the subscription instructions: 1. send email to: bullseye-l-request@lava.net 2. in the subject field, enter: subscribe After subscribing, you should receive an automated welcome message that confirms your subscription, provides instructions for posting messages and replies to the list, and lays forth the few ground rules for bullseye-l. I have also created a home page for bullseye-l that provides additional information and allows you to subscribe straight from the page. Here's the URL: http://www.lava.net/~perrone/bullseye A digest version of the list is also available; more information on this appears on the home page and in the automated welcome message you will receive after subscribing. I expect membership to be up to approximately 50 people within the next week or so, and many more will probably subscribe after the home page has been registered with the search engines and links have been added by many of the larger shooting-related web sites. This should be fun! I look forward to meeting you on bullseye-l. -Paul Perrone ************************** End of UIT Mailing List Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach The Olympic Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/ Michael Ray - Systems Engineer Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech. Rifle Coach The Olympic Shooting Page - http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/1190/